I’m going to tell you why Black Widow doesn’t have her own film.
You can’t blame Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man. Mostly, because then you just wind up arguing with fans who are really excited about a movie with their fav and not, you know, rich movie executives who are actually in charge…
This was actually really true and well-written until the last line “because she’s a woman”. That may be true, but the people who judge the lack of a Black Widow movie based on gender are even more blind than the ones who don’t want to see Ant-Man or Guardians turned into movies. They’re the ignorant ones who don’t see that while, yes, Black Widow is a female character, the fact is that the way the MCU is developing right now sees her better suited as a supporting role. While many fans hope that they’d dive into her past, etc., it just seems irrelevant at this point with how she’s currently being portrayed. Aren’t you happy they’re bringing her back for The Winter Soldier and probably Age of Ultron? Doesn’t that please you? No, of course it doesn’t, because if it’s one thing I’ve noticed about the MCU so far is that so called “fans” complain about every detail that doesn’t fall within the range of what they themselves want to see. Ignorance is the biggest trait fans of many things have, but I’ve noticed it to be highly relevant when it comes to Marvel and the current Cinematic Universe saga. It’s really getting ridiculous. They have a lot of strong female roles so far (Widow, Pepper, Sif, Peggy Carter), and it’s only a matter of time before one makes it to the big screen for a lead role. You just have to give them time. For christ sake, Marvel has things mapped out until 2021, and that’s not even the end of it all. You need to be patient while they figure out who could be a potential success for a movie to a widely-popular film series.
The point is: Natasha did have a movie. It was cancelled because she’s a woman. Because Hollywood is extremely leery of female-fronted superhero movies after Elektra and Catwoman tanked. This isn’t “ignorance”, it’s only tangentially related to the MCU— and it is an actual, verifyable, right-there-on-wikipedia fact. The reason Natasha doesn’t have a film is because she’s a woman, straight-up. But no, you couldn’t deal with that. You had to equivocate. (Why did you have to equivocate? Ask yourself that; I mean it.)
Look: I can respond to your straw-man. I’m big into comic books, so I get along with nit-pickery. I think it’s wonderful that fans get so invested in their favorite characters they can’t help but dream up better endings for them. And I will go to bat for every fourteen year old girl writing Mary Sue fanfiction who forgets there’s a hyphen in Spider-man, because she has a right to be excited about this stuff, and cry about this stuff, and get sad when they don’t make t-shirts in her size, and wonder why none of the Avengers look like her. And she should be able to say what she thinks and not wait fifteen patient years for studios to get over their fear of Catwoman. I will go to bat for her, because, cut my heart out and bleed it, she is probably still having a lot more fun than the movie executives in charge of saying, no, you can’t do that, boys don’t want to see movies about girls. Or the people who pretend to be those executives on the internet.
So, yeah, you caught me. I’m ignorant like that. Your other points are all so sound. I mean, Stan Lee has said that he can’t imagine they aren’t making a BW film. But then, Stan Lee is both a radical feminist and a total stranger to how superheroes work. Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, they were both just talking about how a Black Widow movie quote-unquote has to happen. Obvs, they don’t get the MCU. How could they? Everyone who thinks differently is blind. That the cinematic universe has decided to cast Natasha as a so-far supporting character is totally coincidental to the lack of lady superhero leads since Elektra flopped. The two aren’t related at all. People are just looking for reasons to complain about things that aren’t there.
Kinda like using my post about the actual verified Hollywood fear of female vigilantes to whine about MCU fans you don’t like.
there are so many sides to this. male-fronted superhero movie flops are deemed incidental & they don’t make studios shy away from making more male-fronted superhero movies. male-fronted superhero movies have better publicity engines behind them so even if they’re objectively terrible (insert your least favorite superhero film here), they still tend to make their money back. female-fronted superhero movies aren’t taken as seriously EVEN BY THE PEOPLE MAKING THEM so they turn out to be piles of shit like Catwoman.
no sorry i don’t want to beg for scraps at the table i fucking helped buy and pay for